Buzz just released an update that puts assignments that are allowed a retry onto the student to do list. We are literally 4 days from the end of the semester and suddenly students are having DOZENS of old assignments repopulate on their to-do list. Is there a quick way to make take those retries away or to at least keep them off the to-do list? I like the new feature, but because it's different than how we'd be assigning a retry all year, it's wreaking havoc on our students right now. Thanks in advance!
Students will need to complete the activities or be graded with a score by the teacher if the due date or grace period has not expired to have them roll off their to-do list. See below:
“To-do List” to display activities with retries
The student’s To-do List (see How do I use the Home page? To-do List Screen) has traditionally displayed only activities with due dates (future or past) that have not been completed and have not received a score. In our latest update, the To-do List has been enhanced to display activities with due dates in several additional scenarios. These include:
Activities that have been allowed a retry and the due date or grace period has not expired.
Activities that have been automatically assigned a zero for being past due, but the student can still complete the activity because the grace period has not expired.
It would be wonderful if a future update could add a batch update option to remove retries! This would save a lot of headache having to go into each individual assignment. Just an idea.
This update is problematic for any institution that is mastery-focused and automatically allows more than one retry. The main To-Do list is now a cluttered mess.
As an example, all of my son's lessons allow 2 retries. This allows my son to immediately retake the lesson if he only missed one or two without having to wait for the teacher to allow the retry. This strategy streamlines this process. But, because of this change, my son has several assignments where he scored 100% that are now at the top of his To-Do List. He has to scroll through at least 20 items at this point to get to the next thing on his list.
This was such a powerful feature prior to this update, and very simple for children to use. It's unfortunate that there wasn't an "opt-in" option for this.
Can you share what problem this update was intended to solve? I just can't see it.
Do you mean the student is allowed 2 attempts, not retries? If the student is still seeing the activity in their to-do list and it has been scored with no retry I recommend reaching out to your school to address this and if needed escalate the reported behavior to Agilix Support.
I'm not clear on the difference between attempt and retry. It sounds like this update requires a change to how the teachers are grading the lesson to prevent the To-Do list clutter.
That said, this change does represent a fairly significant change in the UI. I guess I'm interested in understanding how or why this is considered an improvement, per your release notes. It's been quite a headache here and for a number of other students where my children attend.
Activities that are graded "that have been allowed a retry and the due date or grace period has not expired" will now be displayed in the student to-do list. If a retry on their attempt has not been issued to the student and it's still displaying in the student's to-do list please reach out to your school organization. I am unable to replicate if a student has completed an activity and has additional attempts but no retry is issued that it would continue to display in the student's to-do list.
If your school organization is automatically issuing retries to students after submissions then the school organization would need to make changes under that scenario if needed. I recommend reaching out to your school organization letting them know of this behavior and they will escalate it as needed.
I think you are describing a scenario where automatic attempts aren't what's causing the lessons to re-appear in the To-Do List after this change. Rather, it is the "retries" which is set when a lesson is graded?
If the teacher disables automatic retries, but allow for multiple attempts -- will that (a) prevent passing lessons from showing up on the To-Do List; and (b) still allow students to re-do the lesson should the grade not be passing?
I have attempted to communicate with the school, but they are as perplexed as I with this issue. I'm hoping if I can get clarity, I can explain better.
Our school is also dealing with this at the moment.
I have a couple comments/questions/suggestions.
Shouldn't the assignment's Advanced Activity Option: "Mark activity complete when the student:" determine when the assignment is or is not on the student's to-do list? We have a scenario where the student earned a 70% on an assignment with a dropbox. Teacher wants the student to have the option to resubmit the assignment, but it is not required, so gives the student a retry. Advanced gradebook option: Passing score for the assignment is 70%, and the Advanced activity option "Mark as complete when student:" "earns a passing score" is selected.
This assignment should be considered complete. Why is it still on the student's todo list?
The To-do list now displays activities with due dates in several additional scenarios, including:
Activities that have been allowed a retry and the due date or grace period has not expired.
Activities that have been automatically assigned a zero for being past due, but the student can still complete the activity because the grace period has not expired.
All gradable activities are now displayed in the student’s To-do list (previously, only specific activity types were displayed).
"Shouldn't the assignment's Advanced Activity Option: "Mark activity complete when the student:" determine when the assignment is or is not on the student's to-do list?" No it currently doesn't. If the due date and grace period has not passed and a retry was granted it should place the activity on the student's to-do list for them as the to-do list is encouraging the student to complete the activity again.
@Joy An activity should not remain on the student to-do list if they have already summited an activity and have more attempts but do not receive a retry granted by the teacher.
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Hello Leigh:
Students will need to complete the activities or be graded with a score by the teacher if the due date or grace period has not expired to have them roll off their to-do list. See below:
“To-do List” to display activities with retries
The student’s To-do List (see How do I use the Home page? To-do List Screen) has traditionally displayed only activities with due dates (future or past) that have not been completed and have not received a score. In our latest update, the To-do List has been enhanced to display activities with due dates in several additional scenarios. These include:
It would be wonderful if a future update could add a batch update option to remove retries! This would save a lot of headache having to go into each individual assignment. Just an idea.
This update is problematic for any institution that is mastery-focused and automatically allows more than one retry. The main To-Do list is now a cluttered mess.
As an example, all of my son's lessons allow 2 retries. This allows my son to immediately retake the lesson if he only missed one or two without having to wait for the teacher to allow the retry. This strategy streamlines this process. But, because of this change, my son has several assignments where he scored 100% that are now at the top of his To-Do List. He has to scroll through at least 20 items at this point to get to the next thing on his list.
This was such a powerful feature prior to this update, and very simple for children to use. It's unfortunate that there wasn't an "opt-in" option for this.
Can you share what problem this update was intended to solve? I just can't see it.
Thanks!
Hey Joy!
Do you mean the student is allowed 2 attempts, not retries? If the student is still seeing the activity in their to-do list and it has been scored with no retry I recommend reaching out to your school to address this and if needed escalate the reported behavior to Agilix Support.
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the response.
I'm not clear on the difference between attempt and retry. It sounds like this update requires a change to how the teachers are grading the lesson to prevent the To-Do list clutter.
That said, this change does represent a fairly significant change in the UI. I guess I'm interested in understanding how or why this is considered an improvement, per your release notes. It's been quite a headache here and for a number of other students where my children attend.
Thanks!
Apologies, what I meant is that yes, they allow 2 attempts. What I'm not clear on is how this impacts retries that show up in the To-Do List.
Thanks!
Joy
Activities that are graded "that have been allowed a retry and the due date or grace period has not expired" will now be displayed in the student to-do list. If a retry on their attempt has not been issued to the student and it's still displaying in the student's to-do list please reach out to your school organization. I am unable to replicate if a student has completed an activity and has additional attempts but no retry is issued that it would continue to display in the student's to-do list.
If your school organization is automatically issuing retries to students after submissions then the school organization would need to make changes under that scenario if needed. I recommend reaching out to your school organization letting them know of this behavior and they will escalate it as needed.
Hi Brian,
I think you are describing a scenario where automatic attempts aren't what's causing the lessons to re-appear in the To-Do List after this change. Rather, it is the "retries" which is set when a lesson is graded?
If the teacher disables automatic retries, but allow for multiple attempts -- will that (a) prevent passing lessons from showing up on the To-Do List; and (b) still allow students to re-do the lesson should the grade not be passing?
I have attempted to communicate with the school, but they are as perplexed as I with this issue. I'm hoping if I can get clarity, I can explain better.
Thanks!
Our school is also dealing with this at the moment.
I have a couple comments/questions/suggestions.
Shouldn't the assignment's Advanced Activity Option: "Mark activity complete when the student:" determine when the assignment is or is not on the student's to-do list? We have a scenario where the student earned a 70% on an assignment with a dropbox. Teacher wants the student to have the option to resubmit the assignment, but it is not required, so gives the student a retry. Advanced gradebook option: Passing score for the assignment is 70%, and the Advanced activity option "Mark as complete when student:" "earns a passing score" is selected.
This assignment should be considered complete. Why is it still on the student's todo list?
Marc
@Marc:
"Shouldn't the assignment's Advanced Activity Option: "Mark activity complete when the student:" determine when the assignment is or is not on the student's to-do list?" No it currently doesn't. If the due date and grace period has not passed and a retry was granted it should place the activity on the student's to-do list for them as the to-do list is encouraging the student to complete the activity again.
@Joy An activity should not remain on the student to-do list if they have already summited an activity and have more attempts but do not receive a retry granted by the teacher.