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Feedback on essay type assessments not appearing

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Harry Williams
We've noticed that feedback is no longer appearing on essay type assessment questions. This is a change: it was previously visible when students their answers. We have the feedback setting on 'Always' and despite this, it is not appearing. Please could you let me know if there is a fix on the horizon for this?

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Allison Shepherd
  • Agilix team member

Good morning Harry,

Would you please provide a course ID and activity ID where this is occurring, as well as the enrollment ID of a specific student that is not able to view their feedback? With these details we would be more than happy to investigate this further! 

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Harry Williams

Thanks Alison.

 

The course ID is 195741946, an example activity ID is 7ed022fd86e9454e91866b3011796f0f and an enrolment ID of a student is 207158905.

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Allison Shepherd
  • Agilix team member

Hi Harry,

Thank you for providing that information! I was able to locate that activity and student. The reason there is no feedback being shown to the student in this case, is because that activity is set to be a non-gradable activity in the activity settings. Feedback and scores are not returned until the essay questions are graded, which cannot occur through a non gradable activity.

The activity was changed from gradable to non-gradable on Thursday, October 5, 2023 by user ID 193397565. 

If there is an example of a gradable activity that is not displaying feedback to the student, please provide the enrollment and activity IDs here, and I would be more than happy to investigate that instance!

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Harry Williams

Hi Alison,

 

I've now changed the setting back to gradable for this activity, but when I preview the activity as an author, when I type in some dummy text in the 'essay' response box and then hit submit, I'm still not seeing the feedback appear, despite the setting for these questions for feedback to 'Always' appear. When I log in as a student to check the automatic feedback from the student point of view, I'm also still not seeing the feedback there for these 'essay' type questions. I am seeing these when logged in as a teacher viewing the task in the mark book. 

 

What we're trying to achieve is for a student to have a response box to type in their answer, which we don't want a teacher to have to mark: rather, we just want the student to be shown a model answer or a mark scheme, after they click submit on this activity.

 

Many thanks in advance for your help,

 

Harry

 

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Allison Shepherd
  • Agilix team member

Hi Harry,

When an assessment includes Essay type questions, students won't see automatic grading responses until the essay question has been manually graded. This is expected behavior. You can find more information on Assessment review settings in this Buzz article.

I was able to confirm that this is working as expected by putting my own test student in the course and completing that activity. Once I graded each essay type question, my test student was able to view the question feedback. 

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Harry Williams

Hi again Allison,

Is there any way to provide students with instant feedback to these kind of discursive questions (without a teaching having to manually grade it)? We'd like students to be able to self-assess their own short written responses, comparing their answer to a model answer or mark scheme.  This Buzz article says "Buzz lets you provide an example answer and feedback that students can immediately receive and review." This is in relation to the essay questions in assessments, which leaves me a little confused.

Thanks again for your help,

Harry

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Allison Shepherd
  • Agilix team member

Good morning Harry,

Thank you for sharing your confusion with that documentation. I agree that it is contradictory, and we will be updating it to more clearly explain that essay questions must be graded before question feedback is displayed.

At this time, there is not a way to display question feedback on essay type questions before the question is graded. I apologize for any difficulties this may cause for your users! I will mark this as an enhancement request for our team to review and consider changing in the future, but at this time, we do not have any plans on the horizon to change this behavior. 

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